這篇劇評可能有劇透

第一篇影評就留給個人的第一次渣翻吧。。。非英專傷不起。。


Toonzone對監(jiān)制的采訪
NYCC 2014: Toonzone Interviews Ciro Nieli on Season 3 of "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"
October 22, 2014 ? By Todd "GWOtaku" DuBois

With a third season on the air and a fourth already on the way, Nickelodeon’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is sure to be a fixture on the network for quite some time to come. Once again the show had a strong presence at New York Comic Con this year, once again the show’s creators and several members of its voice were in town to talk about the show, and once again Executive Producer Ciro Nieli was kind enough to sit down with Toonzone news and talk about the show. Read on for a discussion with Mr. Nieli about the latest season, the creative challenges of building upon and expanding the show’s world, and some of what’s in store for our heroes in the new season.第三季已播出第四季已預訂，尼克版忍者神龜肯定會在網(wǎng)絡上風靡一段時間。今年它在紐約漫展上又一次表現(xiàn)強勢，節(jié)目制作人和一些配音演員又一次討論這個節(jié)目，監(jiān)制人Ciro Nielli 又一次接受Toonzone新聞采訪來聊一聊這個節(jié)目。一起來了解一下最新一季的那些擴展神龜宇宙的創(chuàng)造性挑戰(zhàn)以及我們的英雄們會怎樣吧。

TOONZONE NEWS: So, TMNT has started season 3 and season 2 ended in a way that seems almost the inverse of season 1 – the Kraang invade New York, the Turtles lose their home and they have to rebound. Is this a season about recovery and taking back New York?
忍者神龜?shù)谌疽呀?jīng)開始并且第二季以幾乎與第一季相反的方式結束——克朗侵占紐約，烏龜失去家園，他們必須重新振作。這一季是關于休養(yǎng)并奪回紐約嗎？
CIRO NEILI: A good part of it is, I think. We’ve always seen the woods this way – whether you’re a turtles fan or making the show, it’s a place for the Turtles to regroup. To recenter, mature a little bit, to basically overcome the odds they are up against. In this case that’s taking back Manhattan, solving the whole Splinter loss, and don’t forget Leo overcoming major physical injuries.
我覺得大部分是。我們總是以這種方式看待樹林——不管你是一個龜迷或者制作人，這里是龜們重新整合的地方。重新定位，更成熟一點，克服他們遇到的怪事。就像回到曼哈頓一樣，解決失去Splinter的悲傷，當然還有Leo克服身上的傷。

TZN: With every passing season you’ve had this balance where characters introduced come back and you keep introducing new ones as well. What can fans look forward to this time around?
過去的幾季你總能平衡好舊角色的重現(xiàn)和新角色的產(chǎn)生。那么這次粉絲們能期待些什么呢？
CIRO NIELI: Well we’re doing a little bit of the same, we’re always going to be introducing new villains. We pull from everywhere. Some you might recognize from the Mirage books, some might be from Archie books or the Fred Wolf show. Some we’ll make up from scratch, so a mixed bag is what’s coming up ahead. We try to filter in new stuff with familiar stuff as much as possible, so that [new] stuff feels like it’s part of the mythos.
我們差不多還是和以前一樣，我們總是引進新的反派。我們從各個地方尋找反派角色，你大概已經(jīng)發(fā)現(xiàn)他們有些來自Mirage books、Archie books或者Fred Wolf show。有的角色是由草圖組成的混合體。我們嘗試盡可能在新事物里滲透一些熟悉的東西，這樣感覺上就是同一主題的一部分。

TZN: Season 2 ended with an interesting situation among the villains: Shredder seems to understands his alliance with the Kraang is tenuous, and he thinks he struck a huge blow for his revenge when he threw Splinter down that drain. But of course, the Turtles aren’t dead. So when they get back to New York are we going to run headlong into a power struggle, or is this a man still ruled by his vendetta?
第二季的反派們的收場很讓人關注：Shredder好像認為他和克朗的結盟無關緊要，覺得把Splinter扔進下水道是他復仇計劃的狠狠一擊。當然神龜們幸免了。那么當他們回到紐約時，我們會看到一場權力之爭，還是Shredder繼續(xù)他的復仇呢？
CIRO NIELI: It’s a little bit of what you said, there is this vendetta. But I think right now it’s going to get massively complicated, and distracted by the Karai story. Ultimately the story begins and should end with the struggle between the Hamato clan and the Foot, so we will serve that at some point. But in the meantime we have to deal with the Karai stuff, the Kraang stuff is complicating things, we have a lot of mutants running around New York, we’re still stuck in the woods, it’s crazy and the world is growing.
跟你說的有點像，是他的復仇。但是我覺得現(xiàn)在情況極其復雜，其中還有Karai事件的影響。復仇總會開始并且在Hamato派與腳幫間的斗爭中結束。所以某種程度上我們會看到的。不過同時我們還有Karai事件要處理，克朗的事很復雜，我們有一大堆變異生物在紐約亂轉，而我們卻被困在樹林里，這真是瘋狂，事態(tài)在發(fā)展。

TZN: So are there going to be some Splinter / Karai adventures in this season then?
那么這季會有Splinter/Karai的故事了？
CIRO NIELI: Well…no. That is interesting, though. You mean together, or separate?
……不。不過那會很有趣，你是指他們一起還是各自的事？
TZN: Right, because last we saw them she saved him and went away and that’s left very open.
是這樣，我們上次看到她把他救走了，結尾很開放。
CIRO NIELI: We don’t really know the state of Splinter, to be honest, and how he’s doing. Karai will be dealt with a lot, but more towards the second half of the season for sure.
我們真的不知道Splinter會怎么樣。Karai的事會被處理，不過也肯定是在本季的第二部分。
TZN: How do you guys feel about where the show’s world is at, right now? There is so much to TMNT lore and so many characters introduced over the years. Is there a point where you feel like it can get too bloated and there’s too much going on? How do you strike the right balance so the show feels fresh but you’re not overloading it?
你們現(xiàn)在覺得對這個節(jié)目里的宇宙如何定位？TMNT宇宙非常龐大，多年來產(chǎn)生非常多的角色。你們有時會不會覺得自己可能膨脹過頭、發(fā)生的事太多？你們?nèi)绾伟盐掌渲械钠胶饧缺３止?jié)目的新鮮度又不會做的太過火？
CIRO NIELI: There’s a lot involved in making a TV show. One of the bigger problems is programming and knowing how it’s going to air, and how it will play on the future on DVD and all that stuff. Fans of Turtles in general, we get that some of the diehard fans would love just watching a serialized show full of canon every show and just hooking up seamlessly like Korra or something. But you know, we also have to understand that these shows should be able to be played out of order so that if you feel like just randomly watching TMNT, you can enjoy it. So I feel like the villains and the world too, the bigger it gets the harder that is to pull of in a clean and simple way. But you have to keep making [action] figures, and I like coming up with monsters. Making them is really fun, they’re like children – you have fun making them, and then you realize you have to live with them. Our rogues gallery is probably at at least 20 now in terms of mutants, I’d imagine, it seems like we’re right around there. Then you have to make space for things like Rocksteady and Bebop, and it gets hard because I know the fans have always wanted that. It’s not that we didn’t want to do it, it was just finding the time and place to fit them in. It’s almost a disservice to characters we’ve come with like Dog Pound, who is now Rahzar, to have to introduce characters like Rocksteady and Bebop because they’re almost filling the same job.
制作電視節(jié)目要考慮很多。比較大的問題是規(guī)劃流程以及怎樣播映，還有將來做成DVD等等。死忠龜粉會覺得看系列正劇就很好并且會像看科拉傳奇一樣一直追劇。但是，我們也必須考慮讓節(jié)目打破常規(guī)，這樣當你只是偶然看到TMNT時你依舊會喜歡。這些反派還有宇宙也是如此，他們越復雜就越難以簡潔的方式說清。但你必須創(chuàng)造新形象，我喜歡制造怪物，制造怪物非常有意思，它們就像孩子一樣——制造它們的過程很享受，然后你發(fā)現(xiàn)你必須要和它們一起生活。我們的流氓展覽館現(xiàn)在大概至少也有20種變異怪物。而你還要給Rocksteady和Bebop（未來的牛頭豬面）留出空間，這有些難因為我知道粉絲們一直期望著他們。不是我們不想，只是要找個合適的時間和空間給他們。我們引進Rocksteady和Bebop所做的幾乎就是對角色的虐待，就像Dog Pound（現(xiàn)在是Rahzar）一樣，因為他們幾乎是在做同樣的工作。
TZN: Except maybe less well, or it’s not really them. *laughs*
除了也許不那么像，或者說并不真是他們（笑）
CIRO NIELI: Yeah. One thing we did, we took Dog Pound and turned him into Rahzar. We got to the point with Dog Pound where we got tired of just him, and rather than saying “l(fā)et’s get rid of him” it was “l(fā)et’s make him who we want him to be”. It was fun to do that, and it gave a better backstory to Rahzar.
對。我們把Dog Pound變成了Rahzar。我們對只是Dog Pound感到厭倦了，于是我們說“讓我們把他變成我們想讓他成為的”而不是“讓我們擺脫他”。這樣做很有趣，而且這還會給Rahzar一個更好的故事背景。


TZN: Generally speaking, what’s on your mind for the turtles this season? The very obvious thing is that Leonardo’s gone through some changes and been through a tough time, and he has to come back. We saw some moments in the season 2 finale like Michelangelo calming down Raphael, Raphael looking over Leonardo with some tenderness and Donatello having to build a lab from scratch. Would you say there’s this conscious intent to develop and tweak everyone as time passes while still keeping them recognizable?
總體來說，你對這一季的神龜如何打算？很顯然Leo正在經(jīng)歷一些改變并且度過一段艱難時期，而且他必須要回來。我們在第二季結尾看到有些時刻Mikey安慰Raph，Raph親切地照顧Leo，還有Don要建一個新的實驗室。你們有打算要在可辨認的同時去發(fā)展并扭曲每個角色嗎？
CIRO NIELI: Definitely. With the change in Leonardo – and this has nothing to do with Seth Green showing up, that was almost serendipitous. In fact we waited to bring in Seth Green until that point, so that we could enhance the story that was happening. Leo has to overcome his physical injuries, and bringing in a new voice for that helped us say hey, this character is going to come out of the other side of this thing with a lot more knowledge of where he’s going. I think Leo doing that automatically ages up the gang, regardless of what we decide to do with them.
Mikey I think definitely changed a little bit out in the woods, I like the more nurturing Mikey. A lot of people see him as a goof and stuff, but I don’t think they’ve actually seen him in a situation with real stakes. So as some of the stories become more realistic and sensible, you see how he’s become an important part of the team. The thing we’re trying to do with Donny the most – there is the situation with the lab, but we’re going to see a bit of bonding between him and Casey Jones. I think they’re a bit more similar than they realize, they’re both of the clan of the tinkerer. Casey may seem like a brain dead jock, but at the same time he did make that outfit and his bike, which is kind of awesome.
是的。Leo的變化——這和Seth Green接手配音毫無關系，那幾乎是偶然。事實上我們就想等到那個時刻來讓Seth Green介入，這樣我們就可以加強故事的效果。Leo必須克服他身上的傷，用一個新的聲音可以幫我們說，嘿，這個角色將要展現(xiàn)他的另一面，對自己何去何從擁有更多的認識。我認為Leo那樣做會自動使整個團隊更加成熟，不管我們都決定做什么。我覺得Mikey肯定會在樹林里變得的開放一點，我喜歡在成長的Mikey。很多人把他看作小笨蛋等等，但我覺得他們真應該看看他在危急時刻的表現(xiàn)。所以當情節(jié)變得更現(xiàn)實明顯，你會發(fā)現(xiàn)他是團隊里重要的一部分。我們對Donny最想做的——在實驗室里的情節(jié)，但我們將會看到一點他和Casey的聯(lián)系。我覺得他們其實比自己意識到的更加相似，他們都是喜歡搗鼓小發(fā)明的人。Casey也許看起來像個無腦健兒，可同時他卻制作了全套裝備和他自己酷炫的車。

TZN: I wanted to ask about that. There’s been this situation with Casey where he’s positioned as Donatello’s rival for April’s affection, and that’s played for laughs, and it’s kept going by the fact that April didn’t want to shatter Donatello’s illusion and hurt his feelings. So I was wondering if things would change and if we’d see more from Casey and more bonding with the Turtles, not just April.
我想問，有這么個情況是Casey是Don對April的情敵，這關系被用來搞笑，而且因為April不愿擊碎Don的幻想傷害他的感情導致這個狀況仍在持續(xù)。我想知道事情是否會變化，我們能否看到更多Casey與龜們的聯(lián)系而不只是與April的。

CIRO NIELI: The thing about Casey that’s great is, you get the four brothers and you play out those realities and relationships between them. Then you bring in a new character, and all those relationships can change. So you let that happen for a minute, and that’s where you get “Apriltello” vs Casey / April shipping things and people get up in arms about that. Some are just hating Casey automatically because that shows their love for Donny, but hold on: he is kind of the fifth turtle, and how does that start to work? Playing that out is definitely a big part of season three. There was a big debate about what we do with Casey, do we bring him to the woods or not bring him? And we decided to bring him, so he’s kind of the fifth Turtle now.
關于Casey很棒的一面是，你有四個兄弟一起經(jīng)歷一切、經(jīng)營著彼此的關系。然后你加入一個新的角色，而那些關系都可能會因此改變。你使它發(fā)生哪怕一刻，就產(chǎn)生了“Apriltello” vs Casey / April的CP之爭，而且人們還為此武裝起來。有些人就是自動討厭Casey以為那展現(xiàn)了他們對Donny的愛，但請等一下：他其實相當于是第五只龜，怎樣表現(xiàn)呢？這肯定占第三季很大的一部分。怎樣處置Casey我們曾有很大的爭論，我們要不要把他帶到樹林呢？最后我們決定帶著他，所以現(xiàn)在他就像是第五個神龜。

TZN: For one last question, real briefly: beyond the woods, what’s the dominant theme in the rest of the season?
最后一個很簡短的問題：除了樹林，這季其余部分的主題是什么呢？
CIRO NIELI: It’s definitely the return to New York. Not just how do we get into the city, but how do we beat the Shredder? And don’t forget the city’s been mutated into Lovecraftian, slimy tentacle head things, so that’s a lot of work for Donatello and everybody. There’s a lot to handle. Sneaking into the city is the first task at hand and we deal with that quite a bit. Finding a new lair is something they’ll have to deal with, because they’re cover has been totally blown at this point. It’s a very thick season, and it’s going to be fun.
當然是回到紐約。不止是怎樣進入城市，還有如何打敗Shredder。當然還有這個城市已經(jīng)被變異成了觸手怪，纖細的觸手頭之類的東西，那將會是Donnetello和所有人要解決的大量工作。有很多要處理。潛入城市是眼前首要任務而我們對這點下了很多功夫。他們還要找一個新的巢穴，因為目前他們的隱蔽處已徹底毀了。這將是信息量密集的一季，而且會很有趣。